I need it like air. More than air. I will give up breathing to have some more MikasaXAnnie in my life.
i never got the impression they formed the squad just to protect eren, i think they’d been levi’s squad for some time. but i didnt expect them to be part of the recon corps during the time the notebook was found either
in that chapter i linked, levi specifically says he chose them because they’d mistrust eren. and because they are strong. sounds to me like those four were picked to take care of eren in that moment in time. thus special ops squad. but who knows…
their kill count was rather high so it makes sense that they’d be in the legion for some time, but yeah everything is confusing. i hate the snk time line and all the spin-offs that confuse and fillerize everything.
I’m pretty sure they were his squad from before Eren. He was saying the qualities that made them good soldiers and had led him to choose them, quick to act, a little paranoid maybe, where the same qualities that made them mistrustful of Eren’s ability.
i’d go to prison if i meant killing reinerhistoria in its sleep, i don’t care, i’d go to prison…
i love you. marry me.
Hm… well, I really love Ymir, but I hesitate to agree with that sentiment. At least because I don’t think Ymir betrayed her comrades and abducted Krista because they don’t see the “real her,” but that she actually is an incredibly abrasive and selfish person.
It’s not so much that everyone saw Ymir as a “monster” in so much that Ymir is not a very pleasant person to be around. She’s rude, blunt, offensive, and can be vicious. Krista is right; Ymir probably does have the worst personality imaginable.
I think there are two prime examples of this awful personality of hers in action, and the first actually takes place when Ymir introduces herself to Krista—the person she wants and needs to meet so badly she enlisted to do it—by demanding to know why she tried to help Sasha by bringing her bread and water. Hardly the best way to make a good first impression.
Ymir also has no reservations about doing something for Sasha so that she will feel indebted to her and do her favors. Not only that, but she doesn’t mind telling Krista that she’s planning to bank on Sasha’s “stupidity” either.
Another great example is when Connie, Krista, and Ymir happen upon Armin while he’s still in shock in the aftermath watching Eren lose limbs and get eaten right before his eyes. Despite Armin’s mental and emotional state, Ymir makes no attempt to empathize with him, sympathize with him, pity him, or help him.
That’s incredibly callous of her, isn’t it?
As for why Jean was so quick to declare that he never truly believed Ymir was humanity’s ally, I think that can be better understood by examining a couple of panels.
Here’s the first:
No one really knows Ymir. Not only is she pretty off-putting but Connie claims she’s always bullshitting and never quite seemed overtly serious about the situations she’s been confronted with. She’s aloof. No one can ever quite understand where she’s coming from or what she’s thinking.
If no one but Krista and possibly Sasha hung out with Ymir in such a way that only they would get to know her even a bit, then you can see why the rest of the 104th wouldn’t know her well enough to trust her in the same way they do each other. So when Ymir reveals she’s a titan shifter and has been hiding that from everyone since she enlisted, they are far more hesitant about giving her the benefit of the doubt than they were with Eren—and even in Eren’s case, remember that Jean was still wary to trust him after hearing about how he went berserk and attacked Mikasa in his titan form.
I don’t think Ymir’s situation is precisely similar to those depicted in Naruto either. It’s been a very long time since I last read that series, but from what I remember Naruto himself was ostracized, distrusted, and reviled by those around him because they actually knew he was the host for the sealed demon fox, and those in the next generation simply followed their elders’ lead in treating him poorly. None of the other trainees knew Ymir is a titan shifter until recently, so those who are wary of her are wary of her because of the way she acts and treats them. That being said, I think you may be on the money with that comparison in regards to Ymir’s childhood, before she became a titan, wandered around the walls for sixty years unconsciously, and made her way into human territory. While we don’t know much about Ymir’s past aside from a few cryptic remarks yet, it could very well be that Ymir’s behavior now is a product of being treated like a monster and reviled for simply being born when she was younger by her people.
However, none of this means that Ymir is actually heartless. She does care about others—Krista and Sasha and Connie but Krista especially, of course—but she doesn’t express that care very conventionally at all.
Even when Ymir probably has good intentions, she still goes about doing things in incredibly abrasive or insensitive ways. Take how she distracts Connie from thinking too much about the mysterious titan lying on his house that reminded him of his mother as an example.
Connie is in distress, and Ymir realizes this. Given her past it’s highly probable she knew that titan was actually Mrs. Springer too. She wants to get his mind off it, but instead of encouraging him or… anything else really… she makes a joke out of it. Mocks his intelligence, his height, his parents. Ymir probably had good intentions here, because what good would it do Connie to dwell on and lose sleep over something so terrible he can’t begin to fathom the answers to? Especially when there are still titans at large within the Wall Rose territories that they will probably encounter soon—without their 3D maneuver gear! As if Connie’s chances of survival wouldn’t be bad already if he was sleep-deprived and concerned over what he saw in his hometown but still had his gear. They would need every ounce of focus and energy to survive, and Ymir knows that… but she tries to help by making fun of a really distressed kid who found a monster who looked like his mother collapsed on the wreckage of what had been his home.
Also consider how she dealt with Sasha! Ymir intuits that Sasha “isn’t being herself” out of shame brought about by internalized classism, which is why Sasha has gone to great lengths to always speak formally: so she can hide her hometown’s dialect. This is something Ymir may have experienced herself, because she was hated for simply being born. She should understand—in fact, she probably does! That would explain how she knows how to unravel Sasha’s façade and uncover her shame, which is something Ymir hates. She absolutely loathes shame. She hates that people are made to feel ashamed about who they are at all, but especially to the extent where they would renounce parts of themselves to “fit in” or lessen the shame they feel. Because it isn’t the shamed person’s fault; it’s the people who engender shame in the individual for simply being who they are. Why then should the individual change themselves in response to something so repulsive? This is why Ymir is so unapologetically herself.
But she doesn’t approach Sasha from that position, or try to relate to her.
But she has good intentions! Ymir realizes that Sasha isn’t being herself because she fears being ridiculed and ostracized for it, so, yes, she tries conveying to Sasha that there isn’t anything wrong in being who she is…
… but what she’s also saying is, You’re you, and I still think you’re a pest, but I will accept you for who you are—and anyone who doesn’t can go straight to hell!
This is Ymir reaching out and reassuring her friend that she will accept her as she is, but just look at how she does it. She doesn’t actually tell Sasha that; Ymir almost never tells someone how she feels plainly. Instead, she kind of revels in her keen intuition (one of the things I love most about Ymir is how smug gets when she figures something out) as she brings up these facts about Sasha that she’s been painstakingly trying to cover up. And that may be its own kind of method, because Ymir is bringing up these truths Sasha is ashamed of and demonstrating that she doesn’t think any less of her for them, but Ymir sure is very abrupt in her approach. She does get her point across and encourage Sasha to begin working through her shame—which is a great thing—but that approach was… well, Ymir’s own. Not that there isn’t value in that—there is!
There’s even how Ymir interacts with Krista—the person she cares for deeply. When they’re riding toward Wall Rose to investigate where the breach is located, Ymir asks her and Krista’s superior to allow them to retreat, after which Krista catches her in a lie: that Ymir had held back during their trainee days so Krista could make the top ten of the class and earn the privilege of joining the Military Police; that Ymir joined the Scouting Legion because Krista did; that Ymir is obeying her superior officer’s orders now instead of running for it because Krista is.
But Ymir responds rather unexpectedly.
But what does she mean by that? Well, we now know that Ymir needs Krista to earn a pardon from the warriors, so ensuring Krista’s safety also ensures Ymir’s own survival. Sticking near Krista to protect her protects Ymir too, but… that’s not all.
Whatever the reason Ymir first approached Krista, she now cares for her very, very deeply.
Krista not only accepted Ymir for the “shitty human being” she is—which is such a significant action to Ymir—but was kind to her, smiled at her, stuck by her and is her friend—perhaps her first, true friend. So wouldn’t staying by Krista’s side have a deeper meaning to Ymir? She loves Krista. Staying near her, protecting her, being with her—it could be construed as selflessness, but it’s above all selfish: because she loves Krista and wants to be near her for her own sake; because she needs to deliver Krista to the warriors to ensure her own survival… so she abducts Krista and appeals to the very same martyr complex Ymir has tried deconstructing and discouraging before. Literally ignoring Krista’s wishes and attempting to manipulate her on top of that!
Of course, it is vital that we take into account where Ymir is coming from: reviled by her people for simply being born; hunted by the warriors for stealing the titans’ power; ”dying” for the happiness of a great many people; spending sixty years trapped in a form that devoured and killed indiscriminately; then, after this life full of hardship after hardship and possibly never knowing a single spot of kindness from another person, waking alone outside an isolated enclosure with the fresh start she’d wished for. She wanted to live only for own sake, so when she heard about a way she could ensure her own survival, she pursued it… but that ticket to life was a person, and that person accepted her, was kind to her, has resolved to be on her side no matter what. So Ymir came to care for her, and love her—because they’re alike.
Because Krista was reviled for the circumstances of her birth, so her family plotted to rid themselves of her. But Krista renounced her identity and joined the military—and “Historia” died for them, like Ymir did for the happiness of a great many people—so Ymir wants to give her the same second shot at life she was afforded…
… to live selfishly not just for Krista’s sake, but for Ymir’s as well. Because Ymir loves Krista and needs her to live—for Ymir’s own sake.
So… I do think Ymir’s comrades had cause to doubt her loyalty. After all, Ymir did ally herself with Bertholdt and Reiner when they told her they would both ensure her pardon and do everything within their power to shield Krista from the conflict, and she was willing to betray her new allies almost immediately after making that alliance if they did not let her take Krista right then and there. She is also not a very approachable or “good” person, and she doesn’t have a grand ambition—like Eren’s—or even a selfish, more normal one—like Jean’s—so she is something of an unrelatable enigma to many of her fellow trainees. Which is why no one but Krista tried appealing to her—they just don’t know her well enough to know how. But notice, when she needs to get something accomplished, she does it. Ymir has great potential for leadership.
Above all, Ymir’s loyalty is to herself… and Krista, but what exactly the ratio between her motivation being her love for Krista and her motivation being she needs Krista to not only continue surviving, but to finally live in a way where she will not fear for her life because of the warriors she enraged… I am not certain, though I truly believe it’s more of the former.
Both are undoubtedly motivating factors, as is the fact that Ymir cares for others, yes, and tries helping them… but her approach is abrasive, direct, offensive. She never quite says everything she means; she is not very good at being vulnerable with others, but she is incredibly good at leading them in her own way. Ymir is a selfish, shitty person, but she is also incredibly intuitive, caring in her own way, admirable in others… but above all this incredibly compelling, terrible, and strikingly sympathetic character who loves another character in this compelling, horrible, terribly selfish, yet somehow strikingly sympathetic way. So I’m with you on that!
Reblogging because this is just such a good post. And I love Ymir and how she teeters back and forth between wanting to help and wanting to look after herself.
I loved it a lot. I’m a sucker for any story with two sisters, that’s what made me so eager to see it in the first place. My favorite part was when Elsa escaped to the mountain and unleashed her powers for the first time.
I think it fell a little flat when it went with the old cliche love interest vs villain thing. She can’t fall in love with Hans in one day but she and Kristoff can fall in love in one day. What. Make up your mind. Plus what Hans and Anna had in the beginning seemed way closer to an actual good date than anything else I’ve seen in a Disney movie.
All the ice animation was really really pretty. (And their dresses were all really really pretty.) The snowman was actually funny.
Christa: Ymir is the worst.
Christa to Ymir: Never leave my side okay?